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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:13 pm

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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:45 am

That keyboardist is pretty sexy Twisted Evil

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Post by MetalH on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:08 am

I believe that I am all ready your friend.... I think.....
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:09 am

Teh point is to click on it rabbit
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Post by MetalH on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:29 am

Oh.... Yes.. Um right...... *Done*
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:29 am

Nu demo posteded. Smile
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Post by MetalH on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:33 am

Teh musiks, they sound.... Goooooooood.
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:54 am

excellente Twisted Evil
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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:02 pm

awesome!


now i can use this for promotion on personal myspace. gotta love that playlist, thing.

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Post by MetalH on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:03 pm

You guys should play a show in Reno.

lol!
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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:07 pm

You gotta a couple thousand to help with that? Cool

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Post by MetalH on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:09 pm

Yeah um...... Not at the *ahem* moment.. I uhhh.... Gotta run!!!!!!!

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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:11 pm

Probably closer to a thousand...but yeah, you get my point.

We'd love to get around and tour though.

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Post by MetalH on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:12 pm

I wish I was more involved with that type of thing. I used to go to concerts (local bands or otherwise) a lot, and now I don't. If you guys make it on a tour way out here, that'd be really awesome! I hope the band really takes off! Smile
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Post by Black Rider on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:28 pm

The clips sound really good and show the growth of the band. Good job guys.
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Post by MetalH on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:25 am

growth of the band

I agree!
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:44 am

I would say these are top examples of what to *basically* expect from us at this point..which is one reason we selected them out of all the stuff we have that isn't recorded or anything yet. These aren't even very brand new, they're up to 2 years old already, so... things have sort of arrived for a while now.......but just saying.............if you like the songs, they're excellent representations of us and our material as a whole and that's the kinda thing you can keep expecting.
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Post by MetalH on Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:18 am

So when can we expect a full length??
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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:45 am

In the somewhat-distant future. Twisted Evil


We'll see what happens with this demo.

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Post by MetalH on Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:48 am

So are ya sellin' the demo??
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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:49 am

As soon as we get it pressed. Razz

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Post by MetalH on Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:50 am

Well keep the updates coming. I would like to support.
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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:52 am

And we'd like to give you something to support Cool

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Post by exo on Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:54 am

I've got something you can support. Twisted Evil



Seriously, though...Will listen tomorrow when I can put some volume behind it.
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:08 pm

*waits with baited breath* Very Happy

Just remember it's myyyspace and they do that thingy to the sound. It came out surprisingly good on there anyhow though.
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:11 pm

Hopefully, it's the myspace effect I'm hearing, because while I really like the music itself, the overall sound doens't really ppeal to me. Too much midrange, the bass doesn't seem to have a presence in the mix...I assume you're going for a slightly raw, Euro-ish rhythm tone with the guitar, and THAT is EXTREMELY well done. GREAT rhythm tone. Couldn't get a bead on the lead tone, because, well, with 6 kids causing chaos in the background, that's a bit tough Very Happy

Overall, it's not 100% my thing, but VERY well done, young lads. Wish we lived a bit closer (like, oh, 4 or 5 STATES closer) so I could catch you guys live......
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:27 pm

Cool! Cool I wasn't necessarily going for a raw Euro type thing, since I have this sound in my head how it's supposed to sound... but it did turn out decent for what I've got and what we put into it..... it'll probably be tweaked slightly more before it gets pressed to CD.

You sure about that bass thing....? lol because.....the bass is actually up pretty loud. Listen during the leads or sometimes there'll be little counter things going on under the rhythm guitar... like the slapping in the riff before the verse in 'Vendetta'..

Don't worry, there's definitely some strong bass. Very Happy I'm not one for the whole make-the-bass-invisible thing. Great tone too if I might say so.
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:47 pm

I've got a 5 speaker surround system with a good sub hooked up to the computer, bro.....I could easily HEAR the basslines....but it didn't "feel as far "up" in the mix is it seemed like the music was calling for. Kinda came off as the guitar and vocals are almost pushed TOO far in front of the ass and drums., if that makes sense.

It should also be noted that I am a BIG fan of the more modern production styles, where the bass is VERY loud in the mix.....not of having it blend in with the guitar that you can't really hear it, but only "feel" it, but having that same relative level od "l;oudness" and still being crisp and audible.....

my personal preferences would have the vocals dialed back a notch or two, the guitar dialed back just a hair, and a louder bass mix, with more low end emphasis on that specific instrument.....
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:58 pm

It's always interesting how stuff sounds on different systems or speakers. Black Rider said he thought the drums seemed most far up, while you're hearing them being pushed back some. It's one reason it will be *tweaked* just a bit more before it gets pressed to CD. Since I don't know a lot about the extreme technical aspects of mixing it gets to be a pain to be shelling out the money and saying stuff like "the thingy here should have that one part of it kinda sound like this but not quite like this..wait wait turn that one thing you just did back again.." etc... Razz

I *think* I get what you're saying with the bass... maybe... although keep in mind a lot of modern albums and a lot of newer extreme metal albums, the style of bass playing is sort of a different animal in the first place and can be afforded that sort of mix. I on the other hand always had the idea of the whole sound together kind of making the system bump rather than the bass driving it... I try and have the bassist act as another guitarist in a lot of ways..like if you've ever heard the 'Morningrise' album by Opeth... that's what I prefer for us..not quite that extreme in execution but you get the idea.
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:12 pm

I get what you are saying, Jake. I also just found out that someone (the Mrs., most likely) had turned on a "live environment" sound treatment, as well, which you guessed it, boosts mids and vocals Rolling Eyes ....so, I will head back over to the page and see what sort of difference tha tmakes....

I wan't to give you guys an honest, balanced assesment here......
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:16 pm

Hey, it's no kind of problem. It is being billed as a demo and cost about as much as one, after all. Smile If I had $ and studio time/engineers the ways I want, there would be a full album and the sound would be crushing, one of the heaviest classic/power metal CD's out. I'm happy about it for what it is and what we *were* able to do this time around and it's not a big problem if some people might dislike some element of the mixing, etc. It's all about the songs. This will be the thing which is the calling card that hopefully brings us some better fortune.
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:20 pm

OK, yeah, 1 minute into it, and.....one should ALWAYS remember to double check little things like media player sound enhancements.......my bad.

EXCELLENT work. Please disregard my previous negative criticisms.....I think that the comment on the drums is spot on, but ONLY for the toms....that tom barrage at the beginning of Symphonies is a touch overwhelming.....

Where's my "facepalm" emoticon when I need it?
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:22 pm

Orion Crystal Ice wrote:Hey, it's no kind of problem. It is being billed as a demo and cost about as much as one, after all. Smile If I had $ and studio time/engineers the ways I want, there would be a full album and the sound would be crushing, one of the heaviest classic/power metal CD's out. I'm happy about it for what it is and what we *were* able to do this time around and it's not a big problem if some people might dislike some element of the mixing, etc. It's all about the songs. This will be the thing which is the calling card that hopefully brings us some better fortune.


I totally understand the $$$ thing....but, hey, at least you've got a "band" situation"...me, I'm broke, with a pile of riffs I don't really know what to do with, and no drummer or bass player to work with....lol
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:23 pm

So, uh, what would it take for me to get some mp3's for work? lol
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Post by L8T on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:29 pm

Sounds Great Jake, looking forward to this.....sorry I didn't hear you on Metal Pulse tonight, was looking forward to that....hopefully the "bugs" get worked out for next week's show.
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:29 pm

Haha, my engineer said the same thing about the opening to that song. "Do you think the tom effect is a little too heavy?" and I said "No.." Razz

I'm just happy you dig it. I'm happy anyone digs it, for any reason.


Here's some links for mp3's... they'll only stay up a day or two:


'Symphony in Black'

'Vendetta'

'Aria of the Waters'

Just remember things might sound a little different depending where you play 'em, and also, they're the 98% definitive files.. but little things will be slightly adjusted some before the CD is pressed..like there's two small vocal things..won't say where.. where I will be having them mixed accordingly as they don't sound to me like they have the same levels as everything else. And these mp3s have no tags..but you can put something like 'Skyliner [demo]' for the album one, since it's gonna be self-titled.
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:33 pm

Thanks bro.

the more I hear this stuff, the more I like it.

Nice to hear the harsh vocals at the end of Symphony Twisted Evil
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:36 pm

Do you mean 'Symphony in Black' or 'Aria of the Waters'? Because there *are* a small amount of "death growls" in the latter...
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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:44 pm

I played keyboards...


lol!

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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:45 pm

u puts teh flowrs in my metlz flower cheers
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:49 pm

haven't gotten all the way thru Aria yet, myspace keeps cutting out.

The song Myspace plays as Symphony in Black has a very short harsh vocalled thing right arond 7 minutes, it's only one vocal phrase, and just befor ethe song ends. I was pleasantly surprised......
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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:50 pm

BackFromTheDawn wrote:I played keyboards...


lol!

you already knowz I haz no luv for teh keyboards..... Evil or Very Mad

but, since you are a member of the band, I shall tolerate their presence.

























couldn't you play gong instead?
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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:52 pm

oh, that. Yeah, that occurs at another point too, right after the second chorus.

There's the links for files up there if you don't wanna put up with the MySpace anymore.. it's understandable. Razz
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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:53 pm

exo wrote:
BackFromTheDawn wrote:I played keyboards...


lol!

you already knowz I haz no luv for teh keyboards..... Evil or Very Mad

but, since you are a member of the band, I shall tolerate their presence.

























couldn't you play gong instead?


Just for that, I'm gonna hunt you down and play an hour long keyboard solo Twisted Evil

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Post by exo on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:57 pm

already downloaded them, and they are currently transferring to the mp3 plaer to listen to at work tonight.
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Post by exo on Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:48 pm

Reviews from last night at work: last night, I had the other 4 guys each come up individually and ask me who that 1st song I played was, because it was one of the best things they'd heard in a long time. I'm not joking, this was a universal reaction from them, and they each asked at seperate times! The song in question is "Aria of the Waters"

I was also fairly stunned myself. I have one of those Keanu Reeves "whoah...." moments once in a VERY great while the first time I listen to something......and this song was the first one of those in well over a year. The mood and performances are just short of perfect. (and yes, BFTD, that INCLUDES my assesment of the keys!!! )


I currently tab this song as my pick for "song of the year", out of EVERYTHING I've heard thus far. It has this blend of "Morgion tossed in a blender with Maiden" going on that just KILLS me....A full disc of tunes like that, and there would be a TREMENDOUS likelyhood that the only reason you guys wouldn't supplant Dagon as my 2nd favorite band would be the simple fact that I have a long term freindship with them! I am stunned and amazed, gentlemen.......
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Post by MetalH on Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:22 pm

That is quite the review exo... Skyliner really is that good. Shocked
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Post by exo on Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:33 pm

Unfortunately, I'm not nearly as fond of the striahgt powermetal tunes. They are EXACTLY the type of flowermetal I tend to listen to, they just don't grab me the way Aria does....
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Post by BackFromTheDawn on Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:14 pm

Thank you for the kind words.


It's nice to see something we work on in such a collaborative effort gets such a good response. I know OCI is even more pleased than I am.

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Post by Orion Crystal Ice on Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:04 pm

Wow.................very very nice words... quite humbling Very Happy I guess I have no excuse for anything anymore now that people are listening.. Razz I'll be trolling companies after this is pressed to try and get at least one record out before everybody stops buying CD's period. Twisted Evil

Seriously, really amazing stuff to read, coolest thing I've seen in weeks. Hopefully the other two songs grow some too since it's most of what we do and what we do best. Smile And you can always expect *something* no matter what the song is, to separate it and make it stand out. I'll use just about anything to give a song what it needs or what sounds good, as long as it doesn't make it sound like a totally different band or anything.

Thanks again..................... Cool
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